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Subject: Re: Oil Gelling in Toyotas

Date: 08/07/02 at 11:22 AM
Posted by: Joe Barrows
E-mail: joe.barrows@acterna.com
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In Reply to: Re: Oil Gelling in Toyotas posted by James on 08/01/02 at 7:44 PM:

As a follow up to the message posted by James. . .
James, you mentioned that you took your Camry in and they said that there wasn't an oil gelling problem. It cost you $120 for that information. I can only assume that they somehow drained the oil pan (perhaps removed the entire pan) and looked at the oil to see if it was still a liquid and not abnormally thick. Or maybe they actually did a chemical analysis, or sent off a sample for chemical analysis to determine if it was gelling? Did they ever tell you what they actually did for your $120?

In regards to the "blue smoke" issue, I am confused on just exactly when and how much blue smoke constitutes a problem with the oil gelling. You said that they were going to charge you an additional $120 to determine whether the blue smoke you see in the morning (which is exactly what I see and others are reporting) is a problem. Did they say that they were looking to see if the blue smoke was related in any way to oil gelling, or if their diagnosis was to be sure that the blue smoke wasn't caused by some other problem, perhaps with the valves, etc.? I am under the impression that maybe the blue smoke is only an oil gelling problem/indicator if the blue smoke continues even after starting the car, not just for a few seconds. The reason I feel this way is because they mention oil consumption as an indicator as well. I do not see any oil consumption with my Camry. You may want to clarify with the mechanic that you need to know whether the blue smoke you see in the morning could be an indicator of the
dreaded oil gelling problem, or if they are just planning to be sure you don't have some other problem.

I was recently asked what I plan to do about my car. To be honest, I am thinking that I will have a purge/flush done of my oil system. I may try to have it done by someone other than the dealer and tell them that I am concerned about oil gelling. I will ask that they look to see if there is any indication of oil gelling in the process. Judging from what others are saying they are hearing when taking their cars into the dealerships, I am guessing that most dealerships haven't a clue what to look for other than thick, unnatural looking oil when they drain it.



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